Sunday, January 31, 2016

Ethical Breeding aka Red Flags

Recently in a rat breeders group I am in the topic of ethics came up in relation on judging other breeders.

In the rat world there can be alot of judgement towards other breeders who do things different than you.

I think judgement often comes from a good intent...we care about the rats and want them to be cared for and not abused nor neglected. But I think we also have to be open minded and not just pass judgement blindly. Someone may do something different then us, we should atleast attempt to learn the reasoning behind it.

We should also be able to separate our standards from our ethics. For example: what brand of food you feed is not often an ethical choice. We have different opinions. And even if someone is feeding a less than ideal or cheap brand that doesn't really make them unethical IMO. But on the flip side... if someone knew that the food was unhealthy or harmful or were not even attempting to give them a good diet (i.e. feeding nothing but crackers or bird seed or cat food) then I do feel that touches on ethics.

Things are not always so cut and dry or black and white.


I am quite an opinionated person. I try not to be annoyingly so. :) I do draw some hard lines where I admit I would say I don't think X is ethical or responsible. But... I also know I can't force my ethics on everyone. I don't mind giving my opinion but unless someone is seriously neglecting or abusing their animals, they gotta do it their way. I can choose to not support them and even suggest others do not as well.

I also think it is important to judge each person individually and not just make a wide blanket statement that all ppl who do X is wrong. 

In the end I'm not a perfect person. I am sure I don't do things how others would like and I may sometimes be too judgy. I try not to keep an open mind.


That being said I do have hard lines where I draw the line ethically. Things some breeders do that I would consider BYB and not ethical or responsible.



  • Obviously any abuse or neglect situations. If the animals are living in dirty conditions, not having food or water, are being injured. I also think over crowding, where the animals do not have their own space or worse when it leads to fights and they just let them stay like that.
  • I fully support and push rescuing animals. I do not support BYBs or mills or pet shops that sell animals.
  • I think responsible breeding is important to make better/healthier/sweeter animals. I am really adamant on only breeding for a good purpose. Breeding to better and improve the animal- be it for show, health, temperament.

    But I do think it is wrong for people to just breed because they can. Just throwing any two animals together, because they wanna play with cute babies or raise them from a baby, because they think little fluffy won't be happy unless they mate or have one litter, someone who has a nice pretty rat and wants to clone it through breeding (that is not how it works people!) lol, or people just want to make money. Alot of animals are in need of homes, don't just bring more into the world just because you can.
  • It bothers me when people sell babies too young. I see so many people on groups say they just got this little baby from a breeder & it is just 2-3-4 weeks old. I have seen breeders say they have to sell so young because their customers want the baby experience.

    I think as a pet breeder there is just zero reason to sell babies that young. Babies need their mom for both nutrition and to learn proper social behaviors. On top of it rehoming young is dangerous- it can lead to under socialized babies that do not properly speak rat, making it harder to introduce them to other rats in the future. In homes that already have rats, it can put them at risk of injury or death from fighting just on size alone.

    Im a bit judgy here, but to me it speaks of just wanting to hurry and pass them off probably to save room/expense. It has nothing to do with the animals best interest.

  • Along with that I really do not like the idea of people who breed their does nonstop. You see some people just keep them with the male forever and have them just nonstop tossing out babies. That is in no way good for the mom. Even just having one or a few back to back litters is not good.

    Moms need time to rest and recover between litters. Having and nursing babies is hard on their body. They need time to gain back weight and be strong again. Breeding a mother not in good strong health is only going to make weak unhealthy babies. I prefer waiting atleast 30 days between the time the babies are weaned to remate her, at the earliest.

    I think in some cases experienced breeders may rebreed sooner than ideal, I wouldn't necessarily knock someone for that in itself. You are working within time frames, being able to judge how a mom is doing and if she is ok can be done.

    The same goes for breeding too young or too old. Babies should not be having babies. A doe needs to grow and develop before being mated. The same way an older doe should be retired. Either too young or too old, the doe will not be in the healthiest conditions. Meaning you are putting her and the babies at risk and lowering the chance for truly healthy babies. That isn't putting the animals well being first and IMO unethical. IMO a female should not be bred younger than 5 months, with 6 being better (though it goes off her weight as well) and I prefer to retire females at 10 months old, some go to a year.  I will say that for experienced breeders sometimes breeding outside those ages is possible. It should be a case by case choice and done so with good reason and care.

  • People who do stupid things like remove their babies tails because "it freaks out people". That really happened. Someone cut the tails off their little baby rats to have an easier time selling them to homes who didn't like tails...

    Also those who pretend to have something special & unique when it is not. I do not mean people who do have a newer or more rare variety or even a variety that isn't as common in their area. I think pushing that is fine. But I mean more people who make stuff up to make it sound better. Kindof like the designer dogs. Your dog is a mutt. I have seen someone trying to sell rats as manx when they clearly were just injured- type of thing. Or people making up a variety or calling one thing something else to make it sound cooler.

  • Rescue/breeding I don't think works well together but I really think breeding said rescues is unethical.

    I knew someone (wont name them) who ran both a rattery and rescue. There were some obvious questions about like quarantine methods. But they would "rescue" rats that were just being rehomed on like craigslist, buy babies from accidental litters, even the whole saving feeders thing. Most of the rats they had no way of knowing their history or even age. Yet they bred their rescues.... Just so many things wrong with that IMO.

    Like first of all when you rescue an animal it should really be given a good happy life, retire it and love it. Not put it to work. They clearly were not trying to better anything that way but were only breeding cute colors/markings. I do not think it is quite safe to be breeding unknown rats all the time, I think again there are some cases where experienced rat breeders could but not like that situation.

  • Not letting animals suffer. Like people who would just let their injured or sick rat suffer and die without treating it themselves or seeking a vet. At the very least euthanize it.


There are definitely other things I would like to see or prefer myself. But those are my definite hard lines that I would be comfortable saying no that breeder is not being ethical.



Friday, January 29, 2016

The Ratoob!

I wanted to share this amazing invention called the Ratoob.

It is basically a bonding pouch that you wear around your neck. That sounds weird lol But it is actually really cool.

A bonding pouch, in case you do not know, is a bag, pouch, or in this case a neck wrap that you carry or wear. You place your rats inside and then you can carry them with you. This helps them get used to your smell, movement and being close to you. It also lets you have small moments to snuggle and love on them while doing other things.

The ratoob is great because it is hands free.

Up close and personal as it is right under your head lol

It lets the rats run around your neck fully and sit on your shoulders.

This also is a great way to prevent the dreaded neck scratches caused by rat nails sometimes. And even better for those who have allergies.

It also contains messes pretty well.


It was suggested in a rat group I am in and I decided to try it out. i really like it so far. I like the hands free nature of it. The rats have all loved it.

I tried it out with rat babies when they were about 2 weeks old. They liked the soft dark spot and went to sleep lol At 4 weeks old...well putting 12 rambunctious 4 week old babies in at once was an experience... they all decided to wrestle and so they were jumping all around my neck and it wasn't that fun for me lol.

My adult rats did a double take at me for wearing it. Literally! But they were all curious and came to check it out. My girls seemed to really love it.

Rats can climb out fairly easily. The adults seemed more interested in staying inside then some of the babies. For the most part they all seemed quite comfy and happy.

In the end I really love it. I highly suggest it. 5 Stars!!

My nephew showing it off for me :)




There may be other versions out there but I bought mine at:
https://www.etsy.com/shop/wrapcity

It was $12 plus $4 shipping. The shipping was super fast! And the shop owner seemed very great.

** I do not own this shop. I am in no way affiliated with this shop. I paid for my purchase and did not get a discount, nor was I compensated for my views here. I just really liked it and wanted to share!



Cheap DIY Hammocks and more!

When it comes to hammocks and toys I do not like spending a ton of cash. Most things do not last all that long with rats. I've spent alot on fancy hammocks/beds to have them literally destroyed in days.

I have alot of rats and like to hang a good amount of hammocks. So I have used this same method for a long while now, it is very inexpensive, easy and works just as well as more expensive ones.

1) First get some fleece. You can buy it from fabric/craft stores or online even. What I do is buy fleece blankets at walmart. They have specific blankets that only cost $2.88 all year round. They are full sized. Come in quite a bit of different colors/designs. They may be a bit harder to find as they seem to be sold fairly quickly and not always restocked right away. Check the different bedding aisles. They may be tossed behind stuff lol

It looks like this but in different colors/designs


I do suggest using fleece. I know some people like to use other fabrics. Do so at your own risk. When you cut fleece the edges are safe and smooth with no hanging strings or fraying. Some other fabric will fray even more so after a wash and can be deadly or lead to injury.

2) Buy hooks. You have tons of options here. I have found ebay to be the best bet so far.
I got a pack of 50 pear shaped shower curtain rings for under $7. They were going for $7+ on amazon for a pack of 12... These hooks are extremely popular for hanging hammocks.
I also bought a pack of 50 lanyard snap hooks for under $5. These hooks are what you find typically on normal store bought hammocks.

Personally I prefer the lanyard hooks for hanging. I tend to use both with the shower curtain ring as the "string" part and then the lanyard hook to attach to the cage.

Both were shipped from the US and had free shipping. So for 100 hooks that should last forever since they are reusable I spent less than $12.

The names of the people I recently bought from are there. But you can just search for lanyard hook or shower hook, pear shape hook, etc... they do have people selling different amounts.



3) To make the hammocks, simple cut the fleece into squares. I find they prefer slightly small, At first I had a tendency to cut them too big and even hung taught they seemed to sink too much lol. I don't measure though but you can.
Slit a small hole into each of the four corners a bit of the ways in.

4) Attach hooks through the holes and hang!



What is great is you can be quite creative with this.
Make layered hammocks or a specific size to fit your cage or a space.

I do not like using shelves in my cages as they are messy. Instead I use alot of hammocks. You can cut perfectly measured fleece and make it cover an entire section, from one side of the cage to the other.

You can kindof see from this pic:





 I also use the hooks to hang lots of other stuff in the cage like boxes, baskets, cheeseball containers lol











Here are some links to other DIY toys & cage accessories.

Pinterest is an amazing resource!
https://www.pinterest.com/shatt3rdx33/rat-toys-diy/

Links to my pet boards on pinterest:
https://www.pinterest.com/eckokitten/i-3-rats/
https://www.pinterest.com/eckokitten/pet-diy/
https://www.pinterest.com/eckokitten/pets/

You can also try searching ferret DIY, mouse DIY, even some cat or dog DIY, or bird DIY.
Just be careful to try and use only safe materials. You dont want pointy edges, anything toxic, or things that could potentially get a toe or nail stuck.

This site is also a great resource for rat DIY
http://www.dapper.com.au/toys.htm


In the end just be creative!

Thursday, January 28, 2016

Introductions

Whenever you have current pets and want to bring in a new one, you should always do proper introductions between them. It is so much easier and better for everyone involved to try and do things as smooth as possible from the start instead of waiting to see if something happens and then trying to fix it.

So you already have a rat or a few and want to bring in a new friend. How should you go about it?


Step One
First I highly suggest doing a proper quarantine so you do not expose your current rat(s) to outside viruses, health issues or parasites. It is so extremely important. And you would feel awful if you harmed or killed your rats because you couldn't be bothered with this step.
Read my post on quarantine for more info


Step Two
Secondly never just assume things will go well. Yes most of the time with a proper intro everything will be fine, but not always. And there is no way to tell how either rat will react. They could be the sweetest rat ever, they could have done awesome with other intros in the past, etc... but things can still go wrong.

So have a plan just in case things do not go well. This would include:
  • Having a spare cage. Which I suggest anyways in case of emergencies, temp cages, hospital cages, etc...
  • Have a backup plan incase they do not get along. Will you still keep all rats? Do you have the cage/space for them? Can you afford and are ok with neutering?

Step Three
Be 100% sure of everyone's sex. Pet stores often make mistakes. Check, double check, and feel very very confident before ever putting anyone together. 


Step Four
I highly suggest you take into consideration the ages of your rats.

I do not suggest introducing babies to adults. Size difference matters alot and babies may not be able to hold their own in a fight. Babies also tend to be much more energetic and hyper then adults, they also have not yet mastered social graces. This means that the baby will likely annoy the adults, the adults will tell them to stop, the babies will not understand or listen- and this leads to fights.

IMO I'd wait to introduce babies until they are older then 8 weeks old. 12+ weeks is even better. So perhaps 8 weeks for females, 12 weeks for males. Even older if there is any past history of aggression or concern.

Also it is important to keep in mind the age of all males involved. At around 4 months+ males may go through a hormonal shift. For many males this is fine and they are still lovely. But for some males this sparks aggression. In that case the only thing you can do is keep them separate or neuter.

So if you rats are younger then 4 months old just be aware things can change and watch for it.


Step Five
My actual Intro method!

I will be honest, I almost never properly intro my females. I have a good size group of females (11 at the time of writing this) and they all get along very well. I think the group size helps actually. 

I still do suggest doing proper intros with females but I wanted to be honest.

1.) Take the rats to an empty bathtub. Use a type of messy food- chocolate syrup, yogurt, baby food, etc... It should be extra yummy. Mine prefer sweet over savory. Put a good amount of the food on them. On their backs, butts, etc.. they don't need to be drenched in it but a good amount for sure. This does two things- it helps mask their smell while also giving the entire meeting a very positive experience. They will likely bathe themselves and perhaps bathe one another even.

2.) If that goes well - no fights. Then you can give them a quick bath together to wash off the food. Then put them in a small warm space with lots of towels to dry off. I prefer a cat carrier. This also helps mask the smell and bonds them over the bath experience.

3.) If that goes well. Then you can put them in the cage together. First the cage needs to be super deep cleaned. Get into every corner and nook. Vinegar is your friend. Also clean everything going inside the cage- dont forget food dishes, water bottles, beds, toys. Everything needs to be deep cleaned or new.

The idea is to have no smell left of the current rat(s). In some cases I would even suggest cleaning around the cage and/or moving the cage into a new neutral room for a few days/weeks.

4.) When putting stuff back in the cage I suggest making it alittle bit bare so if there is a fight no one gets injured on something. I would also go with multiple food dishes, water bottles and beds. All placed on different levels/sides of the cage. This will help to prevent fights.


What to watch for:

There will likely be displays of dominance, spats, nosily squabbles. Those are all fine and normal. Let them work that out on their own. But if there is any blood or injuries I would separate at once.

If at any time there is blood or injuries separate at once and stop trying for that time.


If things go wrong....

Keep them separated for sure. I'd start looking into and ask your vet about neutering if they are male.

But just because things go wrong at first doesn't mean you have to give up all hope!

I have successfully reintroduced two males who were seriously fighting, like wanting to kill each other.

But some notes- They were brothers who had lived together a long time with no real issues before. Things only began when I tried introducing them to my other males. They fought with them and then began to attack each other.
Secondly it was more territorial aggression rather than hormonal.

Each case is unique and you have to weigh your options and decide what is best.

Reintroducing rats that began to have aggression:

If things go wrong or if aggression just starts up, I would first separate them. Try to figure out what the aggression is from if you can.

Is it possibly hormonal? (neuter)
Territorial? Fighting over space, food, toys, beds? (perhaps a bigger cage is needed.)
In my rats case I blame the presence of sharing a rat room with females as the key and then having the other males on top of that. (not all males have issues with either of these)

Keep everyone far apart. I know some suggest cage switches and putting the cages near each other- for me personally I don't feel it works with severe issues of aggression. It will only lead to more stress for the rats as they will be on high alert.

I prefer to keep everyone separated for several weeks.

Then go back and do all the intro steps as if they were meeting for the first time. But this time I definitely would clean around the cage as well as putting the cage in a different neutral room. Not forever maybe but for a while atleast. This is because the rats scent is likely still all around where the cage is kept and removing the smell and making it neutral ground is the key.

I would also try to fix whatever issue could be causing it- such as getting a larger cage perhaps, adding more food/water dishes, etc.. In my case it meant leaving the boys in a different room forever.


Sunday, January 3, 2016

Welcome to the world MMA12 Litter!

I would like to welcome to this world our newest little babies...

Pinkies!


Things could not get anymore perfect with this litter...

Born Jan 1st 2016! New Years Day!
12 babies born - one for every month of the new year!
6 girls & 6 boys!

I honestly usually do not name my litters, except for the ones I am keeping. It is just too many names to go through & I don't like reusing names. But after just about everyone suggesting it.... I will be naming each of the babies after a month. It is really just too perfect not to.

Mom & babies are doing great. I knew Meg would be an excellent mother. All the babies have huge milk bands, they look like they may pop!

These babies will be available for adoption on Feb 12th for those interested. Please contact me for more info & you can reserve your babies now.


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